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Hello all,
I have just received 6 false monthly bank statements, 6 false payslips and a copy of the passport - can not tell if genuine or false as the rest (have to assume the latter).
Anybody has any experience with dealing with such circumstances?
Should I share this person personal details (probably false anyway)?

Any advice is highly appreciated
Many thanks

PS: Goes without saying this person will never get access to my property.

Share with who?

I was hoping to get some info/advice. was not expect questions regarding the solution to this particular issue.

What would you do Hippogriff?

Quote from: mieszko80 on January 09, 2024, 04:52:34 PMI was not expect questions regarding the solution to this particular issue.

Of course there are questions!

The first is: What exactly are you wanting to achieve by sharing the person's "personal details"?

Only when you can answer that question will you be able to work out who to share with.


You also need to understand what your data protection responsibilities are regarding tenant's or prospective tenant's personal details.

Hello HandyMan,
I can see there is an assumption that I know who to contact and how to deal with this issue.
No I do not know hence I share the problem on this forum expecting some sort of guidance and not questions to unknow solution.

Referring back to my original post quote: "Anybody has any experience with dealing with such circumstances?
Should I share this person personal details (probably false anyway)?" which IMO indicates that I am looking for some advice.

Most probably I would not ask that question should I had known the answer in the first place. I would have done it.

So HandyMan thank you for letting me know I need to sort out this issue myself - I feel it is not really in the spirit of this forum, is it not?

Anyway, have a good day

You could simply take everything you have about this person into your nearest police station and leave it to them to decide what action (if any)  to take. As an ordinary citizen that is about all you can legally do. 

Quote from: mieszko80 on January 10, 2024, 07:31:22 AMHello HandyMan,
I can see there is an assumption that I know who to contact and how to deal with this issue.

No. That is not an assumption I have made.


I asked the question: "What exactly are you wanting to achieve by sharing the person's personal details?"


The answer to that will determine the next steps.

Only you can say what you are aiming to achieve.

Quote from: mieszko80 on January 09, 2024, 04:52:34 PMI was hoping to get some info/advice. was not expect questions regarding the solution to this particular issue.

You didn't ask for advice as to who to share with, you asked for advice as to whether you should share. So I asked - who you might be intending to share with. The way it was written it seemed like you had an idea about that already - but the reader certainly didn't know what it was so they were in a position to advise - did you mean this forum, your local MP, the Police, the local branch of the Women's Institute, a train Ticket Inspector?

It seems, now, that you have no clue in both respects. My advice is that you stop wasting everyone's time. I hope you take it.

Thank you heavykarma for your suggestion.

@HandyMan - my point is that I first wanted to know if I should share or not (regardless with whom). Once this question is out of the way and I know my options then is when I can start thinking what I want to achieve. Seems you have jumped to the second step straight away.

@Hippogriff - you are right, I did not ask for advice as to who to share with but whether I should share. Not quite so sure it indicates that I know whom to send data to. I would say it does not (especially that this was secondary question following the general one that shows that I do not know what to do in such a circumstances). If we assume that your first sentence is correct than you contradict yourself in the second sentence. (or the other way round).
Regardless - I take, based on your post's last line that your only advice for me is not to ask any questions and you do not have anything meaningful to say. Nevertheless you are quite eager to judge. not much help at all...
My advice to you is to stop wasting my and everybody's else time by engaging in this thread.
Have a good evening.
 

Quote from: mieszko80 on January 10, 2024, 06:32:24 PMmy point is that I first wanted to know if I should share or not (regardless with whom).

Once this question is out of the way and I know my options then is when I can start thinking what I want to achieve.

You are going about things backwards.

But, let's answer your question anyway...

Yes, you should share.


Now, what do you want to achieve?

hi HandyMan,
"Now, what do you want to achieve?" - World peace, any advice?

You are twisting my words to suit your narrative,
Thanks for an "advise" but unless you have been in a similar situation I think I will pass on any of your suggestions.
 

Quote from: mieszko80 on January 10, 2024, 10:30:08 PM"Now, what do you want to achieve?"

- World peace, any advice?

An excellent goal, but you've come to the wrong forum for that.

Quote from: mieszko80 on January 10, 2024, 10:30:08 PMYou are twisting my words to suit your narrative,

I have not done that.

The point all along has been to understand what your aim is in sharing.

Only then can anyone (including you) decide what to do.



For example:

1. Do you suspect that the person who has shown you a false passport, which was your stated assumption, is an illegal migrant and you want action taken against them? In which case, you need to share with the police/Home Office.

2. Do you want to just expose this person publicly as a fraudulent potential tenant? In which case, make sure you understand what the law is regarding libel and then choose carefully where you publish the personal details. Do you want to warn just local landlords or do you want to expose the person nationally?

3. Do you want share the details here with the aim of starting a potentially interesting & useful discussion about how you determined that the bank statements and invoices were false, ie. a lesson in what to look out for?


Three different aims. Three different courses of action.


Deciding what you want to achieve always has to come before planning what steps to take.

hi HandyMan,
Not sure if I can explain to you that the question was if I should have shared this info at all, regardless of whom to.
You are stuck with the idea of "aim" which was not my question from the very beginning.

Anyway, going back to the original question, Has anyone had any experience in dealing with such a situation and what may be the best solution? (BTW HeavyKarma - thanks for the advice)

Thanks